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In part two of Kanye West‘s interview with Zane Lowe, he talks about his aspirations for expanding creatively and how he feels classism is a big issue today.

He recalls a conversation he had with talent agent Ari Emanuel, who wanted to constrict Kanye’s ability to be creative. “‘You are a celebrity. So basically what’s going to happen is there’s product here, and this is where you end up right here. If you can communicate this product, you can make money off the product,'” Kanye recounts. “Look at [Lady] Gaga. She’s the creative director of Polaroid. I like some of the Gaga songs. What the fuck does she know about cameras?”

He also touched on classism, which shows up on his track “I Am a God.” “When someone comes up and says, ‘I am a God,’ everybody says, ‘Who does he think he is?’ I just told you who I thought I was. A god,” he states. “Would it have been better if I had a song that said, ‘I’m a Gangster’ or if I had a song that said, ‘I’m a Pimp,’ all those colors fit better on a person like me, right?”

Watch part two of Kanye West’s interview above. Watch part one here.