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The cities of Cleveland and Chicago have made plenty of contributions to the world of hip-hop, but it’s always the ones up next that keep us excited.

Z1079’s Micah Dixon sat down in an exclusive interview with Chicago native Torrian Ball and Cleveland’s own Chelsea Pastel ahead of their Cleveland stop on the national Philophobia Tour. They’ll be at The Grog Shop tonight (October 27).

Check out their interview below, where they talk about the art of lyricism, Pastel’s many hip-hop awards, and how to operate social media while in a relationship!